tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7006035116970579216.post5100095873414225013..comments2024-03-23T21:00:09.726-05:00Comments on Vanishing STL: A New Hole Opens in the LoopVanishing STLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08798287914185180625noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7006035116970579216.post-83251665290181215712011-03-23T21:13:50.376-05:002011-03-23T21:13:50.376-05:00You said nothing about the sidewalk being cut up. ...You said nothing about the sidewalk being cut up. Man, this sucks.Daronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11964034675196210390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7006035116970579216.post-90528903493045312072011-03-23T20:31:27.329-05:002011-03-23T20:31:27.329-05:00Kara, you bring up an excellent point. I would be ...Kara, you bring up an excellent point. I would be surprised if they don't have people parking there, going to dinner and spending the whole evening in various places around the loop. What would keep people from doing this? Will they start towing customers cars? That would be a great way to build business! What would keep someone from parking there and going to Pi? Will they need to have a parking attendant watch the lot? If so, then they might as well have valet parking, which would negate the need for a lot at all!<br /><br />Unfortunately since the building that was demolished was not historic, there was nothing to stop it from coming down. Yet the neighborhood's Commercial District Committee approved the plan for the parking lot, apparently not understanding at all how it degrades the street. This is why the City needs an overhaul of it's zoning code.Vanishing STLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08798287914185180625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7006035116970579216.post-64444240453575384082011-03-23T12:39:21.870-05:002011-03-23T12:39:21.870-05:00Oops. Posted as anon @ 12.38Oops. Posted as anon @ 12.38samizdatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7006035116970579216.post-50985275290995106672011-03-23T12:38:02.898-05:002011-03-23T12:38:02.898-05:00As I suggested on another forum regarding this loc...As I suggested on another forum regarding this location, it would have been just as easy to reuse the warehouse structure as a parking garage, thus retaining the building and opening up some space for parking. An imperfect solution, to be sure, but certainly a better one than this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7006035116970579216.post-84630344646449984402011-03-23T11:28:52.158-05:002011-03-23T11:28:52.158-05:00I'm assuming this lot will only be available t...I'm assuming this lot will only be available to customers of the retail or dining in the adjacent building? This really doesn't work on a street like Delmar. Even if I do patronize this future business I won't be parking in their lot. Part of the fun of going to the Loop is making an afternoon or evening of it and visiting other shops, seeing a movie, and taking a stroll down the street. It would be too much work to park in that lot and then move my car somewhere else to visit another business.<br /><br />And I agree, dining outside will be depressing if the parking lot is in view. When will people learn that parking lots are ugly and belong behind buildings, not right there on the street.Karahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17840016017422389469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7006035116970579216.post-76541788277091902612011-03-23T07:50:12.850-05:002011-03-23T07:50:12.850-05:00I agree 100%. I'd also like to add that vibra...I agree 100%. I'd also like to add that vibrant, busy sidewalks are one of the Loop's strongest selling points. A surface parking lot directly adjacent to the commercial building will suck activity off the sidewalk and perpetuate a desolate, empty pedestrian experience. And we know that desolate sidewalks contribute to increased crime (or the perception of crime) and dull street life. I imagine that the restaurant that opens in the commercial building will have outdoor seating, and the appeal of sitting outside is to people-watch. In reality, patrons will be doing a lot more car-watching than people watching.STLgasmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13637030307305896833noreply@blogger.com